Post by teencpgrower2 on Jul 1, 2008 4:30:13 GMT 7
Hi everyone, i was just looking through wiki en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nepenthes_species and read some things that were of interest. like it says N. ampullaria used to acquired a large portion of its nutrient not from bugs, but decaying leaves that fell into the traps. N. inermis has a very thick pitcher liquid, not only to catch bugs, but since they catch rain water and tip over frequently, it makes sure minimal amounts of the digestive liquid is lost. N. Lowii, says it doesn't catch nearly as much food items as other nepenthes but its pitchers are adapted to catching bird droppings while birds feed on the nectar. Has anyone really heard of this before, or taken the time to read through them? Hopefully some of you find this interesting too. This was the first time i've ever read anything about there carnivory, i just thought they ate bugs, this was interesting to figure out why the pitchers are shaped the way they are, and to hear the story behind some species of nepenthes.
Last Edit: Jul 1, 2008 5:04:36 GMT 7 by teencpgrower2
Well there's a great way to keep new members around... surely there are more mature methods of pointing out the presence of a search button without the sarcasm.
Phissionkorps, I am sure that you are very well versed on the use of a computer and the navigation of these forums, but you need to realize that not everyone "computes" at your level. I think of my own father at 77 struggling with sending a simple email and has to call me for things that should be obvious, but aren't to him because he is simply intimidated. But at least he's trying.
Don't you think that a nice, polite nudge in the right direction such as that done by nepenthesmountain would have been more appropriate?
People shouldn't have to be afraid to attempt to contribute something to a forum because they are not overly familiar with a forum's user interface or because the given topic might have been posted a year or two before.
Honestly, I really enjoy the pictures and most of the content of this forum. But when people are treated with disrespect such as what was displayed above, it really does spoil it for me.
teencpgrower2, Glad to see you doing research both on this forum and elsewhere. You are in the process of discovering a whole new world of botany. Keep up the good work. I don't think PK was being sarcastic, maybe it just kinda reads that way, but anyone interested in different aspects of Nepenthes should certainly take advantage of this fourum's search engine. There are hours and hours of reading there, and many comments from top experts in the field. If teencp seemed a little nieve, us old codgers ( I'll narrow that down to me and a few others-you know who you are) in the cp arena just give a smile, knowing it is enthusiasm that fueled his post. He wants to share his discovery with others who would be interested. Here's another one for you teencpgrower2: N. albomarginata seems to have specialized in attracting termites. Could the white band have something to do with this phenomenon?
I honestly hope that he wasn't being sarcastic... it seemed that way to me. I just thought that his point could have been phrased differently, more along the lines of the message after his.
I see this sort of thing in other forums that I frequent where it is commonplace for certain individuals to jump all over people who post something that had been posted previously, maybe years before. That person thought they had made a nice discovery and wanted to make it available to everyone in that forum. The end result was that they were driven away, never to be seen again.
Isn't that contrary to what community forums are supposed to be all about?
I know that if my father was on here, it would be all he could handle just to type in a message and use the mouse/cursor keys to move around in order to correct his typing mistakes, let alone formatting, smilies, quotes, tables, etc. The search button wouldn't even be an option for a long time.
Not everyone is a CP/computer/proboards expert.
Besides, is it really all that big of a big deal if someone posts something on a topic that might be covered elsewhere in the forum?
Post by teencpgrower2 on Jul 1, 2008 22:01:39 GMT 7
thanks everyone, it said that N. albomarginata lures termites using the the rim of trichomes below the pitchers peristome. No one know exactly why though and it said that its the only N. to offer its own tissue as bait. I'll take a look through the Nepenthes botany and science for awhile.
Post by phissionkorps on Jul 2, 2008 1:07:10 GMT 7
I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. The search button just works really well. Anyone that has read any of my posts knows that when I'm trying to be sarcastic or downright mean, I go balls to the wall with it, so it's pretty unmistakable. However, teencper keeps posting stuff that could have easily be answered by using the search function, continues to be pointed to the search function, then says he(?) will use it, then apparently does not. Getting away from stuff like that is a reason lots of people moved here from other forums.....
I'm glad he is excited, and I'm not trying to drive anyone away, I'm just asking for a tiny bit of restraint and/or usage of the search button. Change the days to search to something like 500 and change max results to something large like 40. You can show the results as collapsed and just read through the topic titles as well, which expedites the process.
In fact googling "nepenthes ampullaria detritivore" shows a few journal articles and other sites discussing the topic in question, so does searching "nepenthes lowii toilet". Also, I don't think anyone here has ever mentioned inermis without saying there is only a little fluid, its very viscous, and catches lots of gnats.
Post by Clint Parsons on Jul 2, 2008 1:18:45 GMT 7
Balls to the wall lol. I haven't heard that expression in a while lol.
At least you presented a coherent post. A lot of people are like "Dood! Ampulars eat leaves? That roxxors!!!!!!11" Or worse, ask us if we've ever seen N. aristolochioides before and make "pre-auctions".... I am so glad he's gone
I accept all of what you are saying. You are obviously very involved in this forum and I sincerely offer you kudos for your efforts. I haven't been on this forum a whole lot and was unfamiliar that you have been having "trouble" with this individual. I would imagine that there would be others who would not be aware of that fact and might feel as I do as well.
I have been growing CP for 30+ years, but am relatively new to growing Nepenthes. You obviously are an expert in CP from what I've seen in your other postings (admiration is sincere here) and might find it annoying if someone posts something that is obvious to many growers, but I found the comments about ampullaria and inermis to be interesting. Could I have found the same information by googling it? Probably. Would I have googled it? Probably not... how would I know to google "Nepenthes ampullaria detrivore" when I didn't know about that fact in the first place. I now know because I stumbled on it in teencpgrower2's post and I thank him for posting that information.
Now I see another comment finishing with "I'm glad he's gone." Maybe I shouldn't be here either. I have many questions about Nepenthes and how to succeed with them because I haven't been growing them very long and am still learning. I would be afraid to ask them here because of what I have seen.
You guys need to remember that not everyone has your knowledge about CP, the workings of a computer or the forum software. What is obvious to you may not be so to other members.
rhillier, PK was referring to someone not so long ago who was an annoyance to many members of this forum and others at other forums, not a reference to teencpgrower2. Both you and teencpgrower2 are welcome, and you will find many members here who can answer your questions, or direct you to where you may find answers to your questions. Plus, glad to see you tackle Neps, rhillier! How are you growing them? Under lights in a grow chamber? In a greenhouse? If in a greenhouse or outdoors, what part of the world? We have experts here in all those areas of cultivation.
Post by teencpgrower2 on Jul 2, 2008 2:59:37 GMT 7
Ok, sorry i have been posting new links without looking through old ones i'm sorry and phission korps is right that i havn't been using the search bar, i promise this is the last time, i will look through other posts and quit posting new posts for awhile, again sorry, this is the first forum i have every been on and i do seem to get a little exited being able to post things, don't throw the blame on anyone but me because im the one making the problem. This time i promise to use the search bar, and i will definatly be less of a problem when it comes to posting new subjects. (an sorry for some reason the spell check isn't working so there may be some spelling errors)
However, by the "teen" in your name, I'm assuming you're not part of a university, so you're probably going to have to go to the biggest public library around you to get access to most of those articles.
Post by Clint Parsons on Jul 2, 2008 4:39:49 GMT 7
Oh no, why don't you go look up pon14 and tell me you wish he was still here flooding the boards with that type if...."material". Really, go read all of his posts and you'll see why I said what I said. Seriously. Look it up.
And I wasn't comparing teencpgrower to pon14 for the record I really think he presented a well thought out post, regardless of whether or not the material has been posted before or not. It's not a big deal.
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