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Post by matti on Nov 15, 2005 8:52:21 GMT 7
Ok i plan on getting a Nepenthes lowii very soon i have a choice of Nepenthes lowii mt.kinabalu $30 or Nepenthes lowii mt.trusmardi $35 can anyone tell me the difference wether one is easyer to grow faster grows bigger or what? dont forget to vote and voice your reason!  |
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Post by lol on Nov 15, 2005 8:54:40 GMT 7
I believe that trusmardi was supposed to be faster growing.
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Post by jess on Nov 15, 2005 10:05:59 GMT 7
go for both!
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Post by matti on Nov 15, 2005 10:38:00 GMT 7
cmon guys ya gota vote! neh not buying both! (yet)
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Post by jess on Nov 15, 2005 10:47:38 GMT 7
fine, I voted for trusmadi because my friend has it and he said its a nicer plant then his other lcal ones.
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Post by Rainforest Carnivores on Nov 15, 2005 14:32:28 GMT 7
Trus Madi is twice the size of Kinabalu form and has better coloring. But the Kinabalu form is unique to lowii's. The pitcher is well developed with ample white exudates from the lid, the peristome is a bit more striped, but overall coloring is a basic drab green-maroon. Although smaller, the Kinabalu form does seem to hold more pitchers on a smae size plant. The Mt. Trusmadi form tends to vine quicker producing upper pitchers rapidly and steadily. If space is an issue, get the Kinabalu form. Otherwise a three feet tall Trusmadi will be a nice addition to your greenhouse! Plus the leaves of the Trusmadi is much longer, narrower than Kinabalu!
Does that help?
get both!
M
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Post by Rainforest Carnivores on Nov 15, 2005 14:33:56 GMT 7
Actually if you can get a Gunung Mulu form get that one as it is rarer than the other two. I HAD one until I killed it from using coco bark. Don't use coco bark, use a gritty mix instead!
M
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Post by matti on Nov 15, 2005 16:47:48 GMT 7
ahhh once i get some shade cloth the greenhouse will no longer be a problem! trusmardi it is then,+ my greenhouse is 4 feet tall and by the time it matures (3-4 years) ill have a bigger one by then |
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Post by matti on Nov 15, 2005 16:56:22 GMT 7
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Post by sunbelle on Nov 15, 2005 20:14:49 GMT 7
Matti, From what I hear from other growers, each mountain that supports lowii has a slightly different form. I've heard the same thing as Michael posted. Get the trusmadi form, and even better yet, see if you can find the Mulu form with the dark purple pitcher interior. Actually, see about getting all three  |
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Post by Rainforest Carnivores on Nov 15, 2005 23:41:50 GMT 7
For me, the Trusmadi form does better in warmer climates since the other two forms are slower and sometimes seem to just sit and do nothing. The TM form grows steadily and like I said earlier, they will form uppers and vine quicker.
I would love to breed these beauties to everything warm growing, especially the warm growing monsters and weeds. N. Ventrata even though may seem a bit weedy wiould be an excellent candidate for a cross with the elusive N. lowii, same holds true for a lowland N. veitchii, a giant N. northiana and of course a huge N. bicalcarata Big Mamma! Imagine a lowii growing the size of Big Mamma!!!!
now that's grand!
M
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Post by sunbelle on Nov 16, 2005 3:30:58 GMT 7
Do you know if the seed of the TM forms were collected from a lower altitude?
We have a truncata x ventricosa that would make a great hybrid with lowii. It has a waxy interior that is heavily spotted purple and red, and a somewhat hourglass shape to the pitcher, plus a very heavy, almost woody texture. We've posted pics of it before. Have no idea if its male or female, but man, it's tough and strong. Would be a great parent.
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Post by Rainforest Carnivores on Nov 16, 2005 7:12:10 GMT 7
The N. lowii I have is from BE's clones offered on their site. Its a slow grower at first, becoming faster than the previously "slow" grower many say. perhaps they don't fertilize them so yeah, its very slow! I believe N. lowii requires a high source of nitrogen. Bird droppings are 75% nitrogen and that's a lot coming directly from the source. Concentrated and could easily burn plant tissue not used to this acid mix. So again, I will stress fertilizing as a key to success for this species. Especially something high in nitrogen and if biology serves me, bird droppings are Uric Acid, so its very concentrated.
The truncata hybrid sounds great, I would like to see more lowii hybrids get exposed for everyone especially lowland growers to grow well. I will only cross my N. lowii (if it ever flowers) with ultra lowlanders.
Imagine N. lowii x ampullaria red or tricolor form. Do you suppose the carpet pitchers would have hirs under the lids with the exudates among them?
Both species have a prediliction for bird droppings, perhaps it would be a very compatable hybrid.
Michael
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Post by lamwn on Nov 16, 2005 12:40:23 GMT 7
Actually if you can get a Gunung Mulu form get that one as it is rarer than the other two. I HAD one until I killed it from using coco bark. Don't use coco bark, use a gritty mix instead! M Hi, sorry to ask again, why did the cocobark kill the plant? I find cocobark very well-draining already and its the most suitable soil mix I have found here. What components make up a gritty mix? And since I know orchid bark and RWSC must be one of them what would replace them? (again jumping forward in time) If you reply with sand, what kind of texture are you talking about, surely not the fine grained ones right? because they would give lots of problems... Just in case, what sized cocobark are you referring to? And when you said it killed the lowii, are you referring to the texture and moisture retaining abillities or the salt/sodium content? Thanks |
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Post by matti on Nov 16, 2005 13:20:42 GMT 7
well unfortunatly i can only get either kinabalu or trusmadi so trusmadi it is........got a pick mick? |
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just built new grow room and tons of pitcher shots!