Post by agustinfranco on May 31, 2007 4:12:11 GMT 7
I just wanted to start a topic going back to the traditional species and their evolution into new ones. The main point I wanted to present and, of course, subject to dispute and different interpretations is that some species tend to give rise to other species since their characters (the way they look) sometimes are very similar like (singalana, izumiae, diatas, Carunculata) or jacquelinae, jamban, tenuis, sp nova or sumatra or hamata regular and hamata hairy, or klosii and aristolochioides and a washed up version in talangensis?
why is is that some species like rajah remain unique and others like villosa have close relatives in macrophylla and edwardsiana? what factors make some species to have close relatives and others don't?
Post by agustinfranco on May 31, 2007 6:16:33 GMT 7
Of course, species and hybrids at some point they may come together, since evolution is a constant interaction of different types of plants, but due to isolationism some species tend to exist all by themselves (earthquakes, fires and who knows what), and others interact with other species to make hybrids, which in some cases, later become new species.
A species to me is when a male and female plant, which look the same: inflorescence, leaf shape, pitcher shape and structures are the same, these subsequently are crossed and the progeny looks exactly the same as the parents.
Now going back to the original argument: if we go to sulawesi and spend a couple of years looking or neps, do we expect to find more hamata-like species? or if we go to Sumatra, do we expect to find more dark coloured nepenthes and more plants with toilet-shaped pitchers?
My guess is that this is feasible since many of these species may have common ancestors and genetic recombination through hybridization may have given rise to all these species that look very similar to each other (to some extent that is)
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