Hmm. Good point on the RHS color chart. A few years ago I was thinking about buying it, but was scared away by the cost.
But this makes me think about something entirely different...I was thinking the whole point of this grex registration was to describe the crossing histories of the plants, in order to record the geneology of the plants. But what you're talking about here is the recording of plant characteristics, which seems to be a different can of worms. Maybe I'm missing the point---I'll see if I can find time to research more of what you're proposing.
The point of the registry is to record heritage but breeders want to know more than just the name of the parent plants in a grex. There are many forms of a species, perhaps not in the strict taxonomical sense, but differences that might be insignificant to the taxonomist in defining a species can be very significant to a breeder. Like a human family tree we want to know grandpa's name but also we what to know what he looked like so that we might perhaps discover where we got our eye color or why our child has such a big nose. Ultimately, breeders want to manipulate the phenotypical characteristic of plants ..... not just to define them. Good, clear, descriptions are necessary to this end.
"The difficulty lies, not in the new ideas, but in escaping from the old ones ..." John Maynard Keynes
Sure, I understand that breeders would like to know that kind of stuff. I just didn't realize that this was to be included.
Man, I gotta warn you....if you saw the degree of inhomogeneity in proposed cultivar descriptions I've been shown, you'd be horrified. It will be a challenge to make the morphological portion of this proposed db valuable.
I'm admittedly not familiar with the orchid grex system. Does it include more information than just the crossing data? Does it include phenotypic information as well?
Hey everyone--I'm new to the group. My name is Doug Darnowski, and I am the new president of the ICPS. I'd heard that there was some feeling in the group that ICPS was not the best or most helpful group for Nepenthes growers.
I wanted to post to try to reassure folks that we at ICPS and especially on the Board are very happy to have Nepenthes enthusiasts and breeders in the ICPS.
I want to say that I think that a grex system is just great--growers should have what they need/what works for them and they like. ICPS will also still have cultivar registration going.
Any comments from any Board members or others from ICPS should be seen as purely advisory--not directions or demands. ICPS should be a big tent, and we'd like to keep it that way.
Things work best when the end users get to set them up, since they understand their needs best and are the ones who are bought into any new system.
Also, I'd like to invite the members of this group either as a group or through a few representatives to create a non-technical description of the final version of the grex system and submit it to Carnivorous Plant Newsletter. It would be great for all of our members to be able to learn about the new system that way, among others.
Hi Doug, welcome to the Forums. Please peruse other parts of the forum because this is the cutting edge when it comes to Nepenthes. To quickly answer Barry's question, the orchid grex naming system is a hybrid registry requiring only listing of the parent plants (pod bearing plant the first of the two epithets). A hybrid cannot be named until a representative has flowered. It is priority based.
On behalf of myself and the members of pitcher-plants.com I would like to sincerely welcome you to our forum.
A final draft of the grex registry proposal under consideration and some supplemental materials are being prepared for publication and will be posted here before the month of February is out. At that time forum and conference members will be given a final opportunity to make comment and it is my sincere hope that it will meet with their general approval.
In the mean time, I wish you to know that your pro-active stance and willingness to help in these matters are greatly appreciated by all concerned.
Again, we thank you for posting here and offering to help. We all look forward to working with you and other members of the ICPS in the days ahead.
thatoneplantboi: Hey guys, I'm new to growing nepenthes, I'm getting a mini indoor greenhouse to grow them in. What kind of light should I use for them? Also, if you could provide a link to a product, it would be very much appreciated
Oct 5, 2017 10:16:29 GMT 7
borneo: Yes, they work superbly. But you don't need expensive lights, cheap ones work well too.
Sept 2, 2018 14:34:57 GMT 7
mylesg: i havent checked in here for a while, why does it seem all the CP forums have lost their once strong activity? the trade/sale section used to be so active and now its a ghost town. where is everybody hanging out these days for a strong online CP community?
Dec 9, 2018 3:15:01 GMT 7
mylesg: Happy holidays to everyone out there!
Dec 26, 2018 0:23:13 GMT 7
lance: Everyone left the forums and moved to facebook groups.
Oct 2, 2019 12:09:05 GMT 7
mylesg: yes, facebook groups will never have same feel as this place once did
Nov 3, 2019 8:34:22 GMT 7
etiennecancio: perhaps we can try to revitalize the old forums? i always found them to be much more convenient than facebook groups at least hah
Nov 4, 2019 17:01:25 GMT 7
mylesg: i refuse to abandon this place, i am posting in my grow thread with many photos and always there to answer any questions just built new grow room and tons of pitcher shots!
Nov 6, 2019 21:17:59 GMT 7
vidyut: hey mylesg. glad to hear that. Love this forum. Facebook can't organize knowledge like this. Will participate as much as I can.
Nov 25, 2019 5:37:09 GMT 7
vidyut: Photobucket has ruined this place and many other forum archives with years and years of photos worth referencing now blurred. Priceless information hostage to services once free, begging for adoption, arbitrarily monetized.
Nov 25, 2019 16:28:58 GMT 7
bonfield: This forum is almost at 13K total threads, I can't wait to read the topic that pushes it past the mark!
Dec 3, 2019 8:27:58 GMT 7
arvin555: I do not like FB forums because it is difficult to read back Archives. Let us keep this forum alive!
Dec 9, 2019 11:14:09 GMT 7
mylesg: just posted ton of new pics in my thread!
Feb 9, 2020 3:40:25 GMT 7
bonfield: If you think the situation on this forum is bad, you should see what that those creeps Justin Dunning and Kurtis Herperger(Victoria Butterfly Gardens), Willy Chung, and Lloyd Gordon did to the Canadian forums: www.butterflygardens.ca
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