Post by Rainforest Carnivores on Jan 9, 2006 13:38:05 GMT 7
This thread is just to repost any media discoveries that you'd like to share. Please post your composition and for any special group of plants (i.e. highlanders, seedlings, cuttings, very small plants, etc.)
I am still very strong on the use of perlite in everything. I currently mix three different rubbish can bins with media as follows: One is for seedlings. It is composed of red wood soil conditioner, perlite #2 grade, coarse peatmoss finely broken down.
Next is for seedlings growing out into larger pots or baskets. this is composed of perlite, redwood soil conditioner, peatmoss, and fine orchid bark. I use a lot of the perlite and bark in this mixture for better drainage.
The last bin is composed of coarser small bark, perlite, fine bark, and all the rest in the last mixture. I use more of the fine and small coarse bark in this one. I use this for my larger plants in larger pots and baskets.
leme see i use for highlanders/ultrahighlanders either peat/perlite/clay perls with a top dressing of sphagnum for humidity or pure peat with top dressing of sphagnum lowlanders....peat seedlings:sphagnum
well I'm still using my mix of New zealand long fiber sphagnum (I like the NZ stuff becasue it can hold water much better then the domestic stuff), fine orchid bark, large orchid bark, horticultural charcoal, small amount of peat. For very small plants (less then 2") I'll use just straight NZLFS. I've noticed that the orchid bark doesn't last much over 3 years fo rme its just fine as my plants grow and get larger and need a repot before that anyways. Some plants I have though are in straight NZLFS.I forgot to add I'll change the ratios around a bit as I see fit depending on which species I'm potting.
I use about 8 different ingredients including coarse pine bark, fine peat moss, cinders, perlite and bit of cocofibre. Those are the main ones. And a bit of osmunda (crushed into fine from brick form). Just realised that osmunda is also called 'fern bark' and is NOT the same thing as pine/orchid bark.
For highlanders, this mix in 1:1 ratio with LFS, and for seedlings pure peat with bit of sand.
EDIT: Oh yeah and I wanted to ask about rabbit-bedding-stuff. It is composed of very soft, thin and white (?) canadian pine bark. Looks like it will be good for Nepenthes, but don't know if it will compact together. Anyone tried it b4? The pine bark I am using is brown, hard and cornflake size (still, after pulverizing it with a hammer).
Hello, firstly, MOST of the wood shavings for small rodents are from soft wood so they are not suitable. For hard wood shavings, they can be used exclusively and is not bad, decomposes at similar speed compared to cocochips. As for my type of media, I find that most true lowlanders (ie raff, mirab, amp, gracilis, sumatrana, dont know much about the rest) are ok with cocochips. Cant say they love it, but they seem to do well. As previously explained by Michael, cocochips degrade quite fast, but I dont really have much of an option. I think safely they can last a full year. I use this with charcoal and/or orchid bark and perlite. Mirabilis seems to prefer a mix of peat, charcoal, perlite, cocochips in equal portions most. I would like to find out more about medias for northiana, campanulata, (limestone cliff type or eppiphytic species) Thanks
Oh yeah I forgot to add that I sometimes add a special 'sub-group' of mix for particular species, such as merriliana (laterite) and northiana (pumice + more perlite), usually in a 1:1 ratio to my lowlander mix.
Corbitt Cypress mulch, sponge rock (pebble sized perlite), Canadian sphagnum peatmoss, lightly ground Wisconsin sphagnum moss, fine grade perlite. For seedlings, add washed coconut chips. For DeRoose hanging basket plants: Canadian spagnum peatmoss, Corbitt cypress mulch, sponge rock. Can't give exact ratios, I mix to taste-like a chef. The standard mix is 50-60 percent cypress mulch. Neps love this stuff. It breaks down much slower than firbark and drains very rapidly.
LFS and perlite for all my CPs. ;D I vary the amount of the two for different species. No premix. I put some LFS, pour some perlite, put some LFS, pour some perlite...more like layers than mixture.
Lam, I use LFS/perlite mix for N. campanulata. It came from Malesiana with LFS/perlite mix too. Other than the decline due to flowering, the plant does very well in that mix. It even sent out basal shoots!
I wonder if anyone else besides me rinses out the various components of their Nepenthes growing media, such as peat moss and perlite, in order to get the impurities and fine particles out. Rinsing peat moss is recommended for CPs in general. In addition, perlite usually has a lot of dust (which people should avoid breathing). However, Neps are different from other CPs, so the medium may not need to be rinsed. Does anyone out there have any scientific knowledge that can be applied to this issue?
I use cocopeat and black burned rice hull for germination, seedling , and matue plants. I tried alot of media (single and mix) , and this mix is the best for me. It's cheap also in here.
I don'y find any bad effect of cocopeat fast decomposition. Even I don't see cocopeat fast decomposition. I use the cocopeat fo more than 10 years now for a lot kind of plants, and about 3 years for nepenthes.
Lowlanders that don't mind it wet (ampullaria, mirabilis, benstonei, even some rafflesiana...): Sphagnum or cocopeat (well rinsed). Once they outgrow seedling pots, I tend to overpot them a bit (they also grow fast) and water less often when potting mix is on the damp side rather than wet.
Intermediates/highlanders: Now I use only net pots, though some are still in regular ones. Sphagnum near the drainage holes, sphagnum to line the pot, airier inside - sphagnum with coarse perlite or clay pellets. I place them where they will catch the breeze and also mist from the mister. The whole thing is still pretty wet when watered, just drains and dries faster. In hot months, this can mean watering them daily in addition to the mister.
Lowland seedlings: I usually get erratic germination rates. Never been able to germinate an ampullaria or bical so far. I use sphagnum in seedling pots and water via tray, or sphagnum in tubs and let the mister handle it or spray if they seem to be drying.
Highland seedlings: I now use cheap plastic net trays. Fill with sphagnum, sow somewhat more sparsely than the lowlanders. I also seem to be getting better germination rates than the lowlanders and am going to try some lowlanders like this, in case it is my growing conditions and not what I suspect is old seed causing the poor germination. These trays are hung so that they get the breeze, brief morning direct sunlight. But not windy enough to dry the trays immediately and blow seeds away. the spray from the misters pretty much works like glue fixing the seeds to sphagnum quite fast. I usually get germination in 2-4 weeks, depending. This is rather fast germination than one hears online. I suspect it is because of the temperatures. So far, the oldest batch of seeds like this is about 3 months old from sowing and the larger seedlings (maybe a 20 total) have 4 or so leaves. Maybe a couple have five. Rest, maybe over a hundred or two are all smaller.
That said, I am not very experienced with highlanders or seedlings. Started with both about a year or so ago, and grew very cautiously.
thatoneplantboi: Hey guys, I'm new to growing nepenthes, I'm getting a mini indoor greenhouse to grow them in. What kind of light should I use for them? Also, if you could provide a link to a product, it would be very much appreciated
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