looks like this section needs the dust blown off of it, used to be such a busy place with many offerings open at any given time. hopefully some people with large collection still check in and can help me out.
i am looking for hamata hybrids, xTM hybrids and some robc hybrids. if you have any unique or strange highland nepenthes please just ask me. thanks everyone
Welcome back! It's been very slow around here, but perhaps we can bring some life back to this forum. It's still a great resource. You've probably noticed the availability of Nepenthes species and certain classic hybrids has declined dramatically. The wholesalers haven't been offering the same plants as they did years ago. It was even a topic of discussion here on the forum back in 2014, the wholesalers chime in and somewhat explain the situation pitcherplants.proboards.com/thread/12902/where-all-species
We actually keep in touch with Tony P and he's been doing well, but not selling plants right now. If he gets going again, the supply is not the same, so he wouldn't have the same availability.
It's been very frustrating. We hear lots of complaints saying the retail market is saturated with nondescript looking hybrids that seem a bit pricier than they were in the past. People want species and select hybrids that aren't readily available.
Because we're in such a hot climate, we specialize in lowlanders, along with a few tolerant intermediates. Would like to have some stuff to offer you, but we really can't grow highlanders. If you ever want a greenhouse bred globosa, we have them LOL. We don't really have those highlanders, but have you tried Jeremiah Harris? And, of course, here on the forum hopefully others will offer something. Noa-F still sells some really nice plants here.
Thanks so much for your reply! I have noticed the vast difference in availability and also the nearly tripling in cost from retailers since I was last in the hobby. I had no idea just how good I had it with CPjungle and Tony for tremendous highlander selection.
I am so glad to hear Tony is doing well, sometimes I go to his site just to see if the whole thing was a bad dream. As far as the wholesalers, I was loving the peak of BE hybrid release bonanza when all the hamata hybrids, zTM hybrids and robc hybrids hit the market. Kills me that many of the plants I got back then for under 30 dollars now go for 50-100 if available at all. I will read through that thread for sure.
I understand, its an expensive business to grow cool loving plants in hot places and heat loving plants in cool places. I tried Jeremiah's site but got this error when attempting to get into the store "Cannot connect to MySQL server" Is it working for you?
Not sure what he has available right now in the dead of winter in Colorado, but I see him selling on ebay frequently. If you are looking for highlanders, you should contact him directly, he always has good plants.
AND We suggest trying Drew Martinez to see if he has anything you'd like. www.carnivero.com/
Trying to think of anyone else to suggest whose been into highland Neps long term, not just importing and flipping plants.
We would love to be able to grow highlanders, but six or seven months of the year we have 80 degree lows. It's like Thailand or lowland Borneo half the year here in South FL! There's no cost effective way to cool them, swamp coolers don't do much for us with our high humidity. Hot days and warm nights. But, the lowlanders love it. LOL
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I personally have only been in the hobby for a bit over 5 years now, and from my perspective the availability of species and more desirable hybrids has increased significantly, but prices have also skyrocketed at the same time. I can't believe how expensive a lot of these plants are now.
Honestly your best bet for finding a lot of these plants is to join the sales groups on Facebook and keep an eye on eBay. If you don't mind starting with small plants, importing these rarer ones from Wistuba is generally the cheapest option as well (even cheaper if you can get in on a group order.)
I am actually awaiting some plants from Drew now and also getting some from Ryan of Native Exotics.
Nimbulan, thanks for the info. Jeremiah only selling on ebay explains the store being down and I will save him as a seller and keep my eyes peeled. I placed an order with wistuba for spring import but sadly half the species I wanted were not available. I have never tried sales groups on facebook before as I am not active there at all. Do you belong to any such groups?
how is your ampullaria stock? I used to have about 5 different clones. red with green spots, red with dark red spots, green with red spots, solid green and i think borneo sunset was another? Think theres a brown one that I never managed to get too. That species is probably my favorite lowlander outside of campanullata.
it is so cool having those woody vines hanging down over the babies reminding us they will all become monsters one day
Thanks. Those woody vines are mostly from the big bicals.
We have flowered only male N. ampullaria so far, so we don't have pure species seedlings yet. This is after decades of growing. LOL, what's it going to take? If we want to propagate them, it's only possible by cuttings right now. But... since we're trying to bloom them, cutting the vines is not conducive to getting them to flower. It's a catch 22. I wish the wholesalers would offer them again. The different color forms are very cool.
Yes, they do basal readily and we have many amps producing the "carpet of pitchers" - with no leaves! LOL They will do those clusters of pitchers along the vine too. It's wild. N. amp drk per clusters by Michelle Meeks, on Flickr
Interestingly enough, the ones that bloomed had both ground shoots w/pitcher carpets and long vines. It's only a casual observation, but it seems like they only bloom if they are vegetatively mature in this way. Same goes for that sumatrana in our avatar pic, it had every stage of growth (vines, ground shoots, uppers, lowers) on the plant before it bloomed as a first time flowering female this year. That only took ten years to happen.
We live in South Florida... bugs are plentiful. These plants seem to catch what they need all by themselves, we don't really feed them. Sometimes the contents of the pitchers is downright horrifying.
The female sumatrana had two males crossed on her. Don't want to count the chickens before they hatch type of thing. LOL. Of course, the first choice would be another sumatrana, but I don't think there was another male sumatrana flowering in this hemisphere. That amp pictured above was crossed on to her. Here are a couple more photos of the amp male N. amp drk peristome by Michelle Meeks, on Flickr
thatoneplantboi: Hey guys, I'm new to growing nepenthes, I'm getting a mini indoor greenhouse to grow them in. What kind of light should I use for them? Also, if you could provide a link to a product, it would be very much appreciated
Oct 5, 2017 10:16:29 GMT 7
borneo: Yes, they work superbly. But you don't need expensive lights, cheap ones work well too.
Sept 2, 2018 14:34:57 GMT 7
mylesg: i havent checked in here for a while, why does it seem all the CP forums have lost their once strong activity? the trade/sale section used to be so active and now its a ghost town. where is everybody hanging out these days for a strong online CP community?
Dec 9, 2018 3:15:01 GMT 7
mylesg: Happy holidays to everyone out there!
Dec 26, 2018 0:23:13 GMT 7
lance: Everyone left the forums and moved to facebook groups.
Oct 2, 2019 12:09:05 GMT 7
mylesg: yes, facebook groups will never have same feel as this place once did
Nov 3, 2019 8:34:22 GMT 7
etiennecancio: perhaps we can try to revitalize the old forums? i always found them to be much more convenient than facebook groups at least hah
Nov 4, 2019 17:01:25 GMT 7
mylesg: i refuse to abandon this place, i am posting in my grow thread with many photos and always there to answer any questions just built new grow room and tons of pitcher shots!
Nov 6, 2019 21:17:59 GMT 7
vidyut: hey mylesg. glad to hear that. Love this forum. Facebook can't organize knowledge like this. Will participate as much as I can.
Nov 25, 2019 5:37:09 GMT 7
vidyut: Photobucket has ruined this place and many other forum archives with years and years of photos worth referencing now blurred. Priceless information hostage to services once free, begging for adoption, arbitrarily monetized.
Nov 25, 2019 16:28:58 GMT 7
bonfield: This forum is almost at 13K total threads, I can't wait to read the topic that pushes it past the mark!
Dec 3, 2019 8:27:58 GMT 7
arvin555: I do not like FB forums because it is difficult to read back Archives. Let us keep this forum alive!
Dec 9, 2019 11:14:09 GMT 7
mylesg: just posted ton of new pics in my thread!
Feb 9, 2020 3:40:25 GMT 7
bonfield: If you think the situation on this forum is bad, you should see what that those creeps Justin Dunning and Kurtis Herperger(Victoria Butterfly Gardens), Willy Chung, and Lloyd Gordon did to the Canadian forums: www.butterflygardens.ca
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