I've watched participation here dwindle over the past year, and I've been told by several people that Facebook is the cause - taking 90% of the traffic from most other CP discussion groups. If that's true, I think its a huge shame to have most of the discussion funneled into one big social sinkhole. There are many in this community who won't have anything to do with Facebook, myself included, and I've always felt it was a blessing to have this as a refuge from Facebook.
So now I wonder - is this group doomed to go defunct through inactivity, as others have? Does anyone care?
There are many cons from the traffic moving to facebook but a few pros. The biggest pro is that it seems that it consolidates a lot of nepenthes growers from many countries. For example, instead of going onto cpuk to contact the UK growers, they all seem to be in the facebook groups. The dilemma is that facebook groups are not archivable so it'll be very difficult to ever come back to past discussions. It's gained so much momentum though that I don't know if it can be curved at this point.
Oh, I know there's no changing course now. The Black Hole is going to eat everything. But its such a shame, since a lot of user content is hidden from view inside FB's walled garden, so if you want to see any of it, you have to join. That is so in violation of the principle of the Open Web, and its not good for us.
Last Edit: Dec 15, 2015 8:25:02 GMT 7 by paulbarden
Yeah I think it's a shame that the forum I suffering from the lack of traffic . The Facebook groups generally seem to be picture galleries and not much else ( I only get feeds from highland Nepenthes group can't speak for any others).
It is a rather sad state of affairs. When I first started getting back into Nepenthes after a hiatus, the archives of this forum were invaluable -- such a wealth of cultivation knowledge & wisdom, gleaned from some of the best growers in the hobby, past and present. Facebook's archive function is weak by comparison, and the format of Facebook just doesn't lend itself to the sorts of discussion you can have on a forum.
I am hopeful that facebook's continued sale of users information will drive some of the traffic back to forums like this. I deleted my facebook and will be posting my photos here and try to reignite the heartbeat. Maybe not enough people care enough to leave FB behind but heres to hoping!
The format of the forum is better than facebook for this type of long discussion. For quite some time we didn't post much on here because we were busy with other commitments. Now we have the time and we'll try to contribute more.
LOL - Sunbelle had a facebook account... then one day facebook locked me out of my own account. They wanted photo id in order to get back in. They have some nerve even asking for a photo id. I never got my facebook account back. Talk about a huge red flag.
Then, there's always stuff like this happening: "Facebook announced on Friday that the social network had exposed the private photos of millions of users without their permission.
photo ID is pretty high security to get access to your own social media page, red flag is right.
So, I haven't been on facebook or tried to log on for the past 3 years.
JUST TODAY I created a new account because all of our c.p. friends keep telling us about what's going on in the facebook groups, and I want to see too.
I made a new email, new personal facebook account and Sunbelle page, and uploaded some plant photos. While I am sending friend requests, I get a prompt to upload a photo clearly showing my face. There is no way around this prompt and I am locked out of my own account again. Again! I did a quick search online and read about how they have facial recognition programs.
This is the message: Upload A Photo Of Yourself To get back on Facebook, upload a photo that clearly shows your face. Make sure the photo is well-lit and isn't blurry. Don't include other people in the shot. We use this photo to help us check that this account belongs to you. We'll delete the photo once we've done this, and it will never appear on your profile.
Sorry, but no way am I going to support these companies who want a future technological totalitarian dystopia (I feel like I'm living in the film Minority Report!).
thatoneplantboi: Hey guys, I'm new to growing nepenthes, I'm getting a mini indoor greenhouse to grow them in. What kind of light should I use for them? Also, if you could provide a link to a product, it would be very much appreciated
Oct 5, 2017 10:16:29 GMT 7
borneo: Yes, they work superbly. But you don't need expensive lights, cheap ones work well too.
Sept 2, 2018 14:34:57 GMT 7
mylesg: i havent checked in here for a while, why does it seem all the CP forums have lost their once strong activity? the trade/sale section used to be so active and now its a ghost town. where is everybody hanging out these days for a strong online CP community?
Dec 9, 2018 3:15:01 GMT 7
mylesg: Happy holidays to everyone out there!
Dec 26, 2018 0:23:13 GMT 7
lance: Everyone left the forums and moved to facebook groups.
Oct 2, 2019 12:09:05 GMT 7
mylesg: yes, facebook groups will never have same feel as this place once did
Nov 3, 2019 8:34:22 GMT 7
etiennecancio: perhaps we can try to revitalize the old forums? i always found them to be much more convenient than facebook groups at least hah
Nov 4, 2019 17:01:25 GMT 7
mylesg: i refuse to abandon this place, i am posting in my grow thread with many photos and always there to answer any questions just built new grow room and tons of pitcher shots!
Nov 6, 2019 21:17:59 GMT 7
vidyut: hey mylesg. glad to hear that. Love this forum. Facebook can't organize knowledge like this. Will participate as much as I can.
Nov 25, 2019 5:37:09 GMT 7
vidyut: Photobucket has ruined this place and many other forum archives with years and years of photos worth referencing now blurred. Priceless information hostage to services once free, begging for adoption, arbitrarily monetized.
Nov 25, 2019 16:28:58 GMT 7
bonfield: This forum is almost at 13K total threads, I can't wait to read the topic that pushes it past the mark!
Dec 3, 2019 8:27:58 GMT 7
arvin555: I do not like FB forums because it is difficult to read back Archives. Let us keep this forum alive!
Dec 9, 2019 11:14:09 GMT 7
mylesg: just posted ton of new pics in my thread!
Feb 9, 2020 3:40:25 GMT 7
bonfield: If you think the situation on this forum is bad, you should see what that those creeps Justin Dunning and Kurtis Herperger(Victoria Butterfly Gardens), Willy Chung, and Lloyd Gordon did to the Canadian forums: www.butterflygardens.ca
Jun 1, 2021 7:14:40 GMT 7