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Post by twoton on Jan 6, 2010 19:30:48 GMT 7
Hi all, and Happy New Year! A friend of mine is looking to ID this maxima hybrid. Any ideas? Or is it actually a maxima hybrid? Looks like a maxima to me....but what do I know... Cheers, and thanks in advance! Hans    |
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Post by mitchelldavis76 on Jan 7, 2010 8:47:31 GMT 7
Hi Hans,
Just a wild shot in the dark, but I'd say either pure maxima or maybe fusca X maxima.
Mitchell
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Post by Dave Evans on Jan 7, 2010 9:03:01 GMT 7
Hans, it does appear to be a maxima hybrid, but it isn't one I've seen before. The leaf attachments are rather interesting... I'm not really sure what "saddle-shaped" means, but where the winged petiole meets the stem it does sort of look "saddle-shaped" to me...
Could be a pure maxima, but the pitchers lid features seem a bit subdued... The apical, filiform appendage appears missing and the keel is rather flattened. Still, this doesn't actually rule out pure maxima.
Whatever it is, the color of the pitchers is really nice.
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Post by twoton on Jan 7, 2010 9:32:38 GMT 7
Thanks very much for your speedy and learned replies, Mitch and Dave!!
Hans
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Post by obregon562 on Jan 7, 2010 12:56:00 GMT 7
it looks almost...truncata-y, or petiolata-y maybe. But maximas do possess a ton of variation...
Good luck with this one!
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Post by sunbelle on Jan 8, 2010 3:13:10 GMT 7
Don't think it's performing to its fullest potential, with pitchers like that. Like everyone else, it seems to be a "maxima hybrid".
Do you know where your friend got the plant? It does kinda look like a Nepenthes Allardii, but this is purely a guess.
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Post by justjack on Jan 8, 2010 5:41:55 GMT 7
Maxima's leaves aren't truncate, and truncata's pitchers aren't that mottled at all.
If I was gonna put money on it I'd say max x truncata or vice versa.
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Post by Dave Evans on Jan 8, 2010 5:53:57 GMT 7
I agree with Sunbelle,
If the plant was to be given more light so the leaves to pitchers size ratio adjusts to more normal, it would probably be a lot easier to ID... Even still, nice looking plant.
Oh, what is the shape of the lid, and might it be possible to see a photo of details from the bottom of the lid?
Doesn't really appear to have N. truncata as a direct parent, but I couldn't rule out a grandparent possibility.
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Post by emesis on Jan 12, 2010 0:50:18 GMT 7
Thanks everyone for the help so far. I'm twoton's friend who owns the plant. I decided to answer the questions directly by creating an acct here. Don't think it's performing to its fullest potential, with pitchers like that. Like everyone else, it seems to be a "maxima hybrid". Do you know where your friend got the plant? It does kinda look like a Nepenthes Allardii, but this is purely a guess. the plant is currently growing in a darker corner, so I agree it could be doing better. However, I don't have much grow space left, so it might remain there for quite some time. The plant was a trade from someone who had bought the mother plant from California Carnivores. I got the plant in 2007, but I assume he got it at least 5 years before that as he had 4 other established (albeit smaller) plants when we traded. |
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Post by emesis on Jan 12, 2010 0:57:56 GMT 7
Oh, what is the shape of the lid, and might it be possible to see a photo of details from the bottom of the lid? Unfortunately, the pitcher lids have shrived since my first round of photos. Not sure if it's the heater pulling the humidity, but this happened to another Nepenthes last month. Anyway, I can take some photos now in hopes enough of the characteristics remain or we can wait until it produces new pitchers? |
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Post by sunbelle on Jan 12, 2010 1:39:47 GMT 7
Thanks for a little historical background on the plant, emesis. We now think there is a very high probability that this is a N. Miranda.
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Post by emesis on Jan 12, 2010 16:26:59 GMT 7
Thanks, sunbelle. That was my first guess, but the stem exhibits red coloration, which my other plant doesn't. (The other plant is on a higher windowsill shelf, so lighting is slightly different.)
I didn't see photos of N. Miranda having this red coloration at BobZ's Photo Finder, so is it common? Cheers.
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Post by emesis on Jan 13, 2010 1:33:51 GMT 7
One more thing I thought of. The red coloration is even distributed around the stem's surface circumference. Thus, it's not caused by direct sunlight as the non-window side seems just as red.
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Post by sunbelle on Jan 13, 2010 2:37:16 GMT 7
This could also be caused by cooler than usual night temperatures, but day temps that are normal.
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Post by emesis on Jan 13, 2010 3:20:13 GMT 7
Interesting information, thanks. FYI, the heater kicks in at 60 F / 15.5 C.
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