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Post by bogbaron on Mar 31, 2006 1:03:32 GMT 7
This thread is intended to share photographs and information of Sarracenia in the wild and to enable me to learn more while increasing the population of plants in my small bog. Hopefully I will be able to transplant some of these plants to my house and cultivate them for myself and others. I hope the pictures I am attempting to post will show up. Thank you and happy growing, Chief George   |
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Post by bogbaron on Mar 31, 2006 1:11:54 GMT 7
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Post by mindy on Mar 31, 2006 5:10:25 GMT 7
You need to have your pictures uploaded into some webspace? if you have not got your own webspace try strike9.com, they give you some free, when your pictures are uploaded you just need to link to the pictures using the ![]() tags, these are in the reply page and are the fourth button along that looks like a painting on the add tags line, you just click that then put the web address of your picture between the tags leaving no spaces. |
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Post by bogbaron on Apr 1, 2006 5:18:26 GMT 7
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Post by emiliasgarden on Apr 6, 2006 1:36:10 GMT 7
Hello Bogbaron! ;D
You can also, go to www.photobucket.com and open an account there (it is free) and upload your pics there... Then when you post in this forum, just copy past the address that will appear under the uploaded picture in your photobucket. There you will ahve 3 choices, the one that works in this forum is the one that appear in the IMG: box. ;D
I want to see those pictures of yours, but i cannot find them with the info you gave us 
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Post by Guest on Apr 11, 2006 3:31:13 GMT 7
Hey Emiliasgarden, I may never get these photos on here. Some are in poor focus but most show how tough and hardy these plants are, growing unattended in the wild. I found them by accident while riding my motorcycle though the woods looking for deer sign. When I found some likely trails I dismounted and followed the deer tracks. I ran across several groups of plants I didn't recognize and later learned what they were. Several of my hunting friends say they used to see these plants when hunting as boys but none have seen them lately. I hope to get some pictures of pitchers on this site but have some on groups.yahoo.com/groups/boggarden/ I'll keep trying. Thank you for your advise, George |
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Post by bogbaron on Apr 11, 2006 3:44:46 GMT 7
Hey folks, I found some parrot pitcher plants or maybe cobra pitcher plants, I'm not sure what they are but I will post some pictures to the boggarden site at yahoo if anyone is interested. Several new buds are visible since I pruned away some of the wiregrass and titi around them, and several smaller traps are appearing. I hope I can keep a photo history of them for a week or two maybe showing the forming of the blooms into seed pods. It should be interesting as I have never seen one of these in bloom before. I hope everyone will enjoy them if I can get them to the site. Have a nice day and keep growing cps, George   |
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Post by sunbelle on Apr 11, 2006 4:22:56 GMT 7
Hi Bogbaron,
If you are in Panama City, Florida, then the plants you found are Sarracenia psittacina-the Parrot pitcher plant. Expect to see deep red flowers when those buds open. Do take pictures! You should also find lots of sundews growing side by side with the Parrot Pitchers. In 99 percent of the cases, where there's Sarracenia, there's sundews (mostly Drosera capillaris)
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Post by bogbaron on Apr 11, 2006 19:21:45 GMT 7
Good morning Sunbelle, I do live in P.C., Fl. There are sundews right next to some of the parrot pitcher plants. The purpurea venosa plants are only yards away and the taller trumpet type sarracenia seem to be interspersed irregularly in this small patch of bog although they appear distressed. There must be many more groups of these plants thoughout this property as the creek that runs through it keeps the ground moist but much of the property is so thick with catclaw and brush that I haven't explored it all. This is the perfect time to explore while the temperature is cool and the creek is low. I would imagine that if it hadn't been for the drought we've had the last several years these plants would be abundant thoughout the bog. Tate's Hell to the east of me has fields of yellow topped sarracenia as does Eglin AFB to the west of me but I have only seen pictures and heard tales of them. When I get mine explored I hope to check out these other local spots. Any help identifying these plants would be appreciated. Have you got any idea if there are other varieties of carnivorous plants indigenous to this area? Thanks in advance. Chief George  |
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Post by sunbelle on Apr 11, 2006 20:07:48 GMT 7
Howdy Bogbaron,
The taller trumpets near the purpurea venosa (or S, rosea, depending on your taxonomic preferences) could be either or both S. flava(yellow pitcher) and leucophylla(White topped pitcher), and the natural hybrids among the group. Tate's Hell has some of the largest leucophylla we've ever seen, but they are rare. It would appear that this is the south eastern most limit to the range of leucophylla. Also, along the northern edge of Eglin, along the Yellow River, you can find some fine stands of S. rubra gulfensis. Have fun exploring the land where you are finding the Sarracenia! See how many forms of S, flava you can ID. The most common is the form rugelli with the purple-red band across the lower portion of the lid-commonly called "Slash Throats", Then you'll see the veined form, with varying degrees of venation throughout the pitcher, then there's the "Red Tube" very pretty red tube with a yellow lid that may be heavily veined, and then the rarest is the soild green form. Sometimes these forms grow all together and you get intergrade forms that combine features of the different types. These are very pretty and unique.
Look up under the wiregrass (of course, be careful for Cotton Mouths) and you may find Butterworts (Pinguicula) hugging the ground.
Keep us informed of your explorations!
Trent and Michelle
Sunbelle Exotics
Boca Raton, Florida
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Post by Guest on Apr 11, 2006 22:50:19 GMT 7
Hello Sunbelles, It's strange that you mention cottonmouths. I haven't seen any but about this time last year I did catch a 4.5 foot eastern diamondback rattlesnake near my pond on the southeast side of my 35 acres. The whitetopped sarracenia are west and northwest of the pond in the lower portions of land and nearer the creek. I found several clumps which appear to have died and several which have the top half of the traps dead or dieing. I intend to go through and cut off the dead looking parts to keep fungus from starting. In the past these plants were much healther looking. Also in the past the ditches along hwy 231 were filled with the solid green pitcher plants, over 30 years ago, and that is why I though they were the more prevalent ones. The white topped ones were the ones I thought were rare as I had only seen them in the last 4 years when I started expanding my search around the pond to try to locate any survey markers. In March of 2003 I spotted a sarracenia in bloom and I've been hooked ever since. Do you know if it is legal for me to collect them on my own property? Once again thank you for your help and information. Have a nice day, C/E George
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Post by sunbelle on Apr 12, 2006 1:33:25 GMT 7
Very strange about the white tops having health issues. Has there been a change in the environment near the creek?
We've seen the slash throats in clusters along 231 on both sides of the highway near Bayou George on up to Youngstown. Some real nice veined pitchers 'ornata' on highway 22 right on the county line of Bay and Gulf Counties.
There is no legal issue with you planting more pitchers on your property. However, the State of Florida does require a collecting permit with a signed letter from landowners allowing you to collect, that is, removing from a property. We have sadly seen beautiful stands of Sarracenia disappear to the blades of bulldozers-too bad at least a sampling of these plants were not rescued and moved to a safe habitat. The plants are sentenced to death by the letter of the law, but it is the same law that attempts to save them. Let your conscience be your guide.
Take care,
T & M
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Post by bogbaron on Apr 12, 2006 19:27:41 GMT 7
Thank you T&M for your reply, I have seen the sarracenia on Rollohome covered by roadgraders maintaining the road and that was another incentive for me to try to save my little piece of bog. There is a lot of construction in the area and my little pond had almost dried up, the first time I had seen that in almost 20 years, although the larger ponds on hwy 20 west of 231 had also dried up during the worst of the drought several years ago mine had stayed full until recently when several houses were built to the east. I hope that isn't an indication of worse to come. My neighbor to the south said it was just a lack of rain and the pond is holding water but nowhere near full. It maybe the dryness which is affecting the white tops but it might be pollution as I find all kinds of trash in the creek. I'm hoping for the best and will try to post some pitcher pictures soon. Keep growing, George  |
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Post by emiliasgarden on Apr 15, 2006 4:05:44 GMT 7
Hello! ;D
I was, finally, able to look at your pics on Yahoo... Man, are you saying that you have all these plants in your land? WOW!  You are a lucky guy!
You have to feel like a gifted person and do the best you can to protect them. Congratulations! ;D
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Post by mindy on Apr 16, 2006 4:15:34 GMT 7
I have just managed to see your pictures. Finding a username no-one else had was not easy!! There are some fantastic pictures there. It must be wonderful to live that close to wild populations of carnivorous plants. the butterfly picture is very pretty too..
The plants you have titled as 'orchid like' look like pleiones, they are an orchid that grows from a bulb. The flowers come before the leaves in the spring, they are very pretty and there are many different colours. The psittacinas and purpureas look very healthy. It is so much nicer to see the plants where they belong, in the wild.
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