Post by Rainforest Carnivores on Aug 18, 2005 0:42:38 GMT 7
itchii x rafflesiana looks awesome. I have that clone from MT (assuming that is where you got yours) and is just now getting to the size where it can pitcher. I hope they're tc so they all look as nice as that one!
Right assumption I got two of those v x r and they seem to be the same clone. The leafs are often crippled especially in the beginning (is that the same with your MT clone?). Not heat crippled more like a virus or something. Was quite surprised to receive an unhealthy plant like that (that's maybe why they sent 2 instead of one) The pitchers are always perfect and don't miss out an opportunity. The juvenile pitchers are also relatively colorful and pinkish, but at a certain age they swap to this deeper red. Volker
Post by Rainforest Carnivores on Aug 18, 2005 8:20:59 GMT 7
That crinkling is probably a defect from a clone that has that. When taking seed-origin tc starts, its difficult to say whether a particular clone is perfect or defective. This is why I really like seed-grown starts over tc ones.
My clone has that crinkling and when a grower sees this he automatically thinks that this is due to some cultural disproportions.
I also have this problem with all three of my plants.
We should start a thread and list problems from certain clones that we seem to be having difficulties with. It might be surprising to see how many people have this problem and ultimately may deter a person from growing some species due to this poor growth or abarrent (sp) plant characteristic.
Hi Gang! We brought in twenty of the MT v x r, and all have the same crinkled look to the growth habit, plus, it's not exactly the fastest grower. But on the otherhand, we have three seed raised plants of raff'Kondo' x veitchii-lowland from EP and they exhibit the same problems! And one of the three is in bloom right now(its a male)! The growth is slow (slower than pure vietchii) on all our plants of this cross, and they produce these awkward leaves. This is in contrast to the photos of the old Victorian hybrid of R x v called N. Dicksoniana, which shows a more attractive growth habit and monster pitchers. Not that any of the plants we have of this combination are shy pitcher producers. Even the plants from MT have relatively large pitchers, and the three EP seed raised plants produce very attractive traps, including the uppers. Perhaps the combination of raff x veitchii has genetic problems, or, tends to combine other characteristics we horticulturists don't like...such as twisted foliage and slow growth. Maybe different results would be achieved if the cross were a reciprocal, veitchii x raff. Hmmm. I wonder if in fact the old hybrid Dicksoniana is with a female veitchii?
Hi Gangmembers Very interesting observation about the potential incompatibility on v x r, also eliminates my fears about some wicked pathogen. It might just belong to the reasons why Nepenthes don't hybridize in nature without limits. Glad, that I didn't order 20 of those, hehehe, but 20 is also my favorite number with MT. Although the pitchers are really nice and long lasting. The plant is not even particularly slow for me: pitcher to pitcher time (let's call it p2p ) is quite exactly 45 days, a bit faster even than the rafflesianas with 50+ days, although I have a feeling our raffs are growing slower than they could. Volker PS: Do you guys have p2p data so we can create a list in a new topic? Might be interesting to compare species and growing conditions. The data can be taken from the date that comes with digital images of freshly opened pitchers, assuming you have your favorite plant for picture taking for every species for every pitcher. PPS: Seems like the 'censored word system' attacked your thingysoniana which should be a D_icksoniana
We've already sold about half of them, and they never reached the size to show that nice red flush. Since they are no longer available, we may hold onto what's left, and sell them off when they reach a nice size and color, keeping one or two for the collection Never have tried that p2p data. Might have to do a few.
wait now for some reason it worked, or are you working that fast Volker. Beautiful plants Sunbelle!
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