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Post by ep on Apr 22, 2012 12:51:16 GMT 7
Hi All. Red Lowii: We do not have U/P on lowii x merri or lowii x talang as yet. The lowii x specs are intermediate. No the other two were not released as there were only a few. Pics below plus some others that took my eye today.  N.lowii x spectabilis  N.lowii x campanulata  N.lowii x merrilliana   Largest N.lowii x merrillianas  N.[Rokko x (fusca x spectabilis)] x TM  N.(ventricosa x sibuyanensis) x TM  N.(ventricosa x sibuyanensis) x carunculata var.robusta  N.[('thorelii' x rafflesiana) x 'thorelii'] x (spectabilis x truncata) kevnep: No, not for a while. Seb:You seem to have the roll of spokesperson.  We should be updating our catalogue within the next month. N.lowii x jac and N.truncata x jac are growing on. I checked the date on the edwardsiana and they are actually only 18 months old. Must have been 'armchair musing'. If you are leading to asking did I collect seed, the answer is no. The N.rigidifolia were from tc. Yes, all the rajahs we had were from tc from BE and another lab. Yes it surprised us how touchy they were. After being to a location now though they do grow quite cool during the day so perhaps our conditions weren't good enough. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by kevnep on Apr 22, 2012 17:24:41 GMT 7
Wow amazing now im very glad i have three clones of lowii x spectabilis and lowii x talangensis. Cant wait for lowii x talang, i hope it makes the hybrid compact as in ventricosa x talangensis. Those look more like intemediates with lp characteristics am i right? I see a very nice pitcher next to the N.[('thorelii' x rafflesiana) x 'thorelii'] x (spectabilis x truncata) right next to the lid and peristome what is that Geoff if you keep posting these awesome plants i might have to raid your nursery  |
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Post by sebastian1 on Apr 22, 2012 20:13:35 GMT 7
Hi All. Our highlands grow in pure LFS, nothing else. . That moss does not look like sphagnum to me. . Nor does that …. Or do you not grow this as a highland plant? Would you mind posting a pick of an aerial view of your eddy, showing the growing tip and crown? For an 18 month old seedling its pitchers are very well developed. It does look more like a 2 ½ year old plant… remind me, as the brain is a little foggy, how long ago were you observing the plants in the wild? Seb:You seem to have the roll of spokesperson Thank you. |
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Post by scouty on Apr 23, 2012 0:26:13 GMT 7
You are lucky guy i grown vent x xtrus in thailand BKK ,Pitcher is around Ring Finger
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Post by ep on Apr 23, 2012 15:22:07 GMT 7
Hi All. Seb:Are you calling me a liar? That's slander or libel or something Seb: I think it is an eddy. Someone sent me seed that was mixed up. Lucky N.edwardsiana is described or else we could call it something ;D No, tongue in cheek jokes aside Yes, you are correct it is not sphagnum moss it is a pest moss called Weasel Moss by the suppliers, that comes mixed with the sphagnum and takes over if you don't keep on top of it. See pics below. And yes, correct again. It is coir chip which we have used for many years and also that is not the pot the N.lowii x merrilliana is growing in. But yes, we grow them as intermediates. What can I say about the eddy, it is 18 months old and that's how we grow things . The special formula is $100/10ml . I was in Borneo in 2009 and saw N.edwardsiana on Mt.Tambuyukon. What an amazing plant. I remember it very well. When you see an amazing plant in the wild you remember it, time, date and place and every detail and have heaps of pics to remind you. Well....... most of us would .  Same pot and now dead N.lowii x spec pitcher.  Sphagnum under Weasel Moss. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by sebastian1 on Apr 23, 2012 16:41:07 GMT 7
Seb:Are you calling me a liar? I may have implied that. You may have thought that... but I never said it. I was in Borneo in 2009 and saw N.edwardsiana on Mt.Tambuyukon. What an amazing plant. I remember it very well. Seb: The edwardsiana is about 2 and 1/2 years old. I see you have now edited your previous post regarding the age of the plant, I have a screenshot I could upload. Or would you rather it was kept quiet? Would you mind posting a pic of an aerial view of your eddy, showing the growing tip and crown? The special formula is $100/10ml . I actually feel more inclined to believe that than your feeding regime of "any commercial artificial fertilizer that is available at the time". I had an odd message today from another member on this forum, requesting that I ask when your next release date is. Could you please tell us that? We should be updating our catalogue within the next month. Geoff, have you ever considered a career in politics? You’re very good giving vague answers. EP releases plants every three months anyway so we already know it will be within the next month. The question asked about the date. Now, back to the media, are lowland and intermediate plants potted into the same media? Is that just pure bark, nothing else? What type of bark is it? Do you find it degrades quickly? How often do you have to repot your plants? Next time you feed your plants can you measure the EC for us? Also you avoided the question of what pH water you use, could you tell us that? Thank you for all your answers |
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Post by jeno on Apr 23, 2012 17:57:33 GMT 7
Hi Guys,
It's been a while since my last post even though not a day goes by that I don't read what's going on the forum. Just one for Sabastian1 it seems more like an Intergration rather then question asking. Please note that you are asking one of the worlds best growers about how he grows his plants in the hope that you will find that mirical product that will make your plants into a monster. What all you guys seem to forget that Exotica plants is a business and therefor bills are paid by selling great looking plants. They are not electricians, plumbers, lawyers or anything else other then fantastic growers of nepenthes. Most of us grow plants as a hobby and got to our normal day jobs to make our money. The reason I say this is because it seems that all want to know what that mirical product is that makes monster plants. Guess what, I know what it is. This may surprise you all but it's...........just great growing and nothing else.
Anyway, I just wanted to add my two cents worth as I don't want to see another 30pages of crap again.
Sorry, I forgot to say that it's Geoff and Andrea whom give us some of the most amazing plants we have ever seen and had the opportunity to grow. If we keep poking and prodding then maybe people like this will stop contributing to this forum
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Post by kevnep on Apr 23, 2012 18:47:22 GMT 7
i must say im impressed with these plants. i would like to know, since these plants are much larger than the ones we have are they from a first older batch and ours from a second one?
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Post by sebastian1 on Apr 23, 2012 19:17:15 GMT 7
Just one for Sabastian1 it seems more like an Intergration rather then question asking. Jeno, I agree to an extent with your comment, but how comes you didn’t express a similar opinion when Geoff was interrogating anyone who disagreed with him on the black truncata thread? I understand why people might be concerned with my persistent roll of questions for Geoff. The fact of the matter is this, I’ve heard the same story so many times I’d like to find out the answer. A few years ago I spoke to a friend who had just received a large batch of plants from EP and a month or two before that some plants from AW. Now as we all know AW plants are small, soft and unless cared for properly, they have a very high mortality rate. EP’s plants on the other hand come through robust, with a pitcher/leaf size ratio that is unchallenged by any other grower I’ve seen. The overall health of the plants is really exceptional. However this is where the story I’ve heard comes into play, as the plants settle in their pitcher size decreases and most growers struggle to ever get them up to that size again. Please note I am speaking of the leaf/pitcher size ratio here and NOT general pitcher size.Perhaps it is just the fault of the grower, most people can’t expect to grow them to the same standards as EP, but when AW, or BE plants come through, and they tend to continue growing normally, so it does seem like the plants from EP are suddenly lacking something… maybe it is all about the location, but if that is so why aren’t all the other Australian growers producing monstrous pitchers? This may not apply to every scenario it’s just a story I have heard many times, and I’m curious about it. Geoff I’d also like to ask your views on tissue culture, I understand you have some objections to it and would like to know why. Also which of your plants, if any, do you TC? When creating these new hybrids, how many plants on average to you produce? Judging by the amount of lowii crosses I imagine you would have pollinated the flower spike a great number of times. Last question for today, I’d still like to see the growing tip and crown of your N. edwardsiana, but do you have a picture of the plants all together in trays or on benches? Thank you Sebastian |
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Post by ayi on Apr 23, 2012 19:28:32 GMT 7
I thought I was the only who has noticed the way Sebastian asks his questions...
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Post by lawdy on Apr 23, 2012 21:27:56 GMT 7
Sebastian, are you trying to say Geoff collected the edwardsiana seed from the wild himself? Im curious as to why it matters how old such a small plant is.
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Post by OCPADDICT on Apr 23, 2012 21:55:15 GMT 7
I like Seb's questions but tone has become a bit hostle on your last post. I also agree with jeno as this is there business and You can't expect them to explain all of there secrects if any. You buy and keep buying from them because they have great hybrids and large healthy plants above the rest IMO.
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Post by sebastian1 on Apr 23, 2012 21:58:41 GMT 7
Lawdy, half the posts you have made are about Geoff.. and you only registered last month? Regardless, the answer to your question is No. It is merely the fact Geoff has supplied us with conflicting information regarding the age of plants. I'm not accusing him of anything.
Jeno, I see you have visited the EP nursery in 2008, did you take many other photos? I'd love to see them.
If lots of people object to me asking questions on this thread I will stop posting. But I've received several supportive pm's so I didn't realise this was upsetting people.
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Post by Dave Evans on Apr 23, 2012 23:20:48 GMT 7
Some folks just hate to stir the waters, so-to-speak. I think it is much better that Geoff has become more engaged with forum members lately. Even if it had a rough start. Two wrongs will generally just make things worse, so less interrogation and more discussion please. |
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Post by bobblybook on Apr 23, 2012 23:33:08 GMT 7
If lots of people object to me asking questions on this thread I will stop posting. But I've received several supportive pm's so I didn't realise this was upsetting people. While questions are good, I agree with others that the way they are coming across is not very friendly - it feels like some are bordering on rude. I'd really be honestly surprised if you can't distinguish between the two. Lawdy, half the posts you have made are about Geoff.. and you only registered last month? I don't know what you're insinuating, but I'd think twice before speaking like this to others, considering your own account isn't even 3 weeks old and all your posts so far have been solely within two threads (can anyone guess which two?). Hopefully this thread can maintain a friendly atmosphere, and I'll throw in a couple of questions myself for EP so we don't drift off-topic:
- Are there any plans on breeding a more cold tolerant (eg. intermediate) N.amp? Not sure how successful this could be by using lowland parents, it may require using higher altitude plants to begin with (which nobody seems to have in cultivation currently
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- Your small N. jamban, are these all seed grown or from TC?
- Last one - do you grow / breed with N. singalana? I haven't seen many (if any) hybrids from you with this species, but personally I would be very excited for singalana x izumiae, singalana x truncata, Predator x singalana, and maybe even something crazy like sumatrana x singalana!
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